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	<title>Comments on: Is stage 1 required on a 2008 Harley Davidson when using after market pipes?</title>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, it is not required.... but it is necessary to realize any benefits from the swap.... you otherwise get nothing more than more noise.  you won't get any bit of extra oomph from just pipes

and for those who rant about having to remap for pipes, they are dead wrong.... a remap tells your injectors to give more fuel to compensate for more air.... and you cannot get more air into an engine with just pipes, it takes a high flow breather as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, it is not required&#8230;. but it is necessary to realize any benefits from the swap&#8230;. you otherwise get nothing more than more noise.  you won&#8217;t get any bit of extra oomph from just pipes</p>
<p>and for those who rant about having to remap for pipes, they are dead wrong&#8230;. a remap tells your injectors to give more fuel to compensate for more air&#8230;. and you cannot get more air into an engine with just pipes, it takes a high flow breather as well!</p>
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		<title>By: chainbart</title>
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		<dc:creator>chainbart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>drain the motor oil and use Amsoil Synthetic Motorcycle Oil and you will see a 15 to 20 mph HIGHER top speed and a 10 to 15% increase in gas mileage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drain the motor oil and use Amsoil Synthetic Motorcycle Oil and you will see a 15 to 20 mph HIGHER top speed and a 10 to 15% increase in gas mileage</p>
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		<title>By: robin b</title>
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		<dc:creator>robin b</dc:creator>
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		<description>If you have fitted an aftermarket pipes, you will need to rejet the carburettor for best running as the aftermarket pipes will most likely be less restrictive than the originals ( i assume they are loud pipes)

Stage 1 doesnt really mean anything. Depends on who is making the jet kit for the bike. Screaming eagle is a harley specific make, dynojet another. 

Id recommend taking it to a Dyno centre or a specialist engine tuners and getting it professionally set up if you dont know how to adjust a carburettor. One example is Tim Blakemore Racing here in Bristol.

If you have a newer fuel injected harley, the FI will probably sort itself out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have fitted an aftermarket pipes, you will need to rejet the carburettor for best running as the aftermarket pipes will most likely be less restrictive than the originals ( i assume they are loud pipes)</p>
<p>Stage 1 doesnt really mean anything. Depends on who is making the jet kit for the bike. Screaming eagle is a harley specific make, dynojet another. </p>
<p>Id recommend taking it to a Dyno centre or a specialist engine tuners and getting it professionally set up if you dont know how to adjust a carburettor. One example is Tim Blakemore Racing here in Bristol.</p>
<p>If you have a newer fuel injected harley, the FI will probably sort itself out.</p>
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		<title>By: ACE</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACE</dc:creator>
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		<description>What Robin does not know is that all '08 HD are injected.  And no. Just change the pipes.  I have an '08 FXSTC, I gutted the stock mufflers with a 1 1/16&#34; hole saw.  They sound great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Robin does not know is that all &#8216;08 HD are injected.  And no. Just change the pipes.  I have an &#8216;08 FXSTC, I gutted the stock mufflers with a 1 1/16&quot; hole saw.  They sound great.</p>
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		<title>By: J1NLif</title>
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		<dc:creator>J1NLif</dc:creator>
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		<description>If you are a putting a set of slip in mufflers on, you don't need anything. If you are going with a complete exhaust, I would also suggest going with a Hi-flo air cleaner and at least a download. If you are going with a complete exhaust and a hi-flo and have the extra cash, I would get a HD supertuner or Powercommander and have it dyno tuned

Ace... you are going to screw up your bike. I would recommend getting some aftermarket slip ons at least. Stock pipes are tuned to reduce exhaust gas reversion. By drilling a hole you are letting hot exhaust gases back up the pipe and into the cylinder. This reduces exhaust flow, builds extra heat at the valve, and contaminates your air fuel mixture inside your cylinder. Now your bike won't fall apart or break down. However, you will see a loss of performance at lower rpms, and over time will cause valve train damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are a putting a set of slip in mufflers on, you don&#8217;t need anything. If you are going with a complete exhaust, I would also suggest going with a Hi-flo air cleaner and at least a download. If you are going with a complete exhaust and a hi-flo and have the extra cash, I would get a HD supertuner or Powercommander and have it dyno tuned</p>
<p>Ace&#8230; you are going to screw up your bike. I would recommend getting some aftermarket slip ons at least. Stock pipes are tuned to reduce exhaust gas reversion. By drilling a hole you are letting hot exhaust gases back up the pipe and into the cylinder. This reduces exhaust flow, builds extra heat at the valve, and contaminates your air fuel mixture inside your cylinder. Now your bike won&#8217;t fall apart or break down. However, you will see a loss of performance at lower rpms, and over time will cause valve train damage.</p>
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